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Title: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on January 14, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
Yes the elusive Fred Martin is back. ;D

I had an rudimentary idea for a song of which I only knew for sure it needed a piano part. So I send it to Fred to work on. The part he came up with amazed me cos it really gave the whole song such a natural flow despite a not-everyday chord sequence. It  made it very easy for me to fill in the rest of the arrangement. So a big "thank you" to Fred.

It was also Fred's idea to use this song for the Respect project which meant I had to come up with some suitable lyrics to fit the bill.
So I did and this song tries to convey the thought that time is running out (hence the title Count to seven) and we as a human race need to evaluate our primary goals. Economic pursuit and consumerism versus preservation of nature and the quality of our living environment. We only have one planet to live on and we haven't got a spare one lying about.

Count to seven:

http://www.martin-e-music.nl/mp3/Count-to-seven.mp3

Martin



Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on January 27, 2008, 12:00:36 PM
Fred and I finished our contribution to the Respect project. You can find the link in the first post.

Here are the lyrics as well.

   COUNT TO SEVEN

NOW THE TIME HAS COME
WE MUST REALIZE
SOMETHING’S GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE
WE JUST CAN’T GO ON
LOOK AT WHAT WE’VE DONE
IN THE NAME OF THE HUMAN RACE

THINK ABOUT THE LIFE WE’VE CHOSEN
ABOUT THE LIVES WE LEAD
ARE WE GONNA LET IT HAPPEN
I AM GONNA COUNT TO SEVEN

WE ARE LIVING ON
WHERE WE ALL BELONG
PLANET EARTH IS WHERE WE STAY
TRY TO LOOK BEYOND
WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM
IN THE END THERE IS NO ESCAPE

THINK ABOUT THE LIFE WE’VE CHOSEN
ABOUT THE LIVES WE LEAD
ARE WE GONNA LET IT HAPPEN
I AM GONNA COUNT TO SEVEN
ARE WE GONNA SAVE THIS WORLD FROM GRIEF

I AM WAITING NOW
LIKE A LITTLE CHILD
I WILL FIND A HIDEAWAY
NO ONE REALLY KNOWS
HOW IT’S GONNA GO
WILL WE EVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY



Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Oren on January 27, 2008, 01:40:17 PM
Classic work, gentlemen!

Fred Martin takes it to another level, once again :o


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: rharv on January 27, 2008, 02:22:39 PM
Excellent job guys.  Sets the bar high, just how we like it!
Thanks for contributing this.
 8)


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Laguna Rising on January 27, 2008, 03:17:12 PM
Fred Martin takes it to another level, once again :o
:o

+1 : this is excellent: I was thinking to some unfinished sketch or demo thing....
I was wrong

Well done indeed  8)

Cheers


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on January 27, 2008, 05:48:31 PM
Thanks for the comments, guys.

Quote from: Laguna Rising
link=topic=1363.msg12246#msg12246 date=1201447032
I was thinking to some unfinished sketch or demo thing....

Fred Martin likes to get down to business. No messin around. Tough guy to work with  ;D


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: folderol on January 27, 2008, 07:42:09 PM
Well I just have to agree with the others here. Very good work.

<mutter> ups the ante for the rest of us now <mutter> :D


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on January 27, 2008, 08:06:08 PM
I am in solid agreement as well....top flight production guys! O0

Thom


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Fred S on January 27, 2008, 09:23:42 PM
Fred Martin likes to get down to business. No messin around. Tough guy to work with  ;D
;D

I used to be blown away by your ability to come up with beautiful vocal melodies and outstanding lyrics, Martin. But you do it every single time! So now, its just business as usual ;)

Great work! Thanks for letting me play along  ;D

btw, you never asked, but I know you know that was TP's "rock" (with a couple minor tweaks). Next time we'll try Sampletekk's Black Grand. I think that one has a lot of potential...just have to get the tweaks worked out first.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on January 27, 2008, 09:37:47 PM
Thanks for the comments Thom and Will.

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I used to be blown away by your ability to come up with beautiful vocal melodies and outstanding lyrics, Martin. But you do it every single time! So now, its just business as usual ;) 

Lets hope the well won't run dry at some point. ;)

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btw, you never asked, but I know you know that was TP's "rock" (with a couple minor tweaks). Next time we'll try Sampletekk's Black Grand. I think that one has a lot of potential...just have to get the tweaks worked out first.


I wanted to ask but somehow forgot to.  ::) I'm surprised it's TP really. But on the other hand it confirmes my believe that TP is a great piano vst. I really thought it was one of the big sample piano's. Maybe you can share the tweaks you did.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: offthewall on January 27, 2008, 10:40:42 PM
 :(
If this is going to be the standard for the project........then (http://bestsmileys.com/sad/8.gif)

I think I'll go home now and go to sleep and never wake up..... (http://bestsmileys.com/sad/8.gif)


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on January 28, 2008, 11:57:01 AM
:(
If this is going to be the standard for the project........then (http://bestsmileys.com/sad/8.gif)

I think I'll go home now and go to sleep and never wake up..... (http://bestsmileys.com/sad/8.gif)

Mmm well I don't know what to say, James. Did you wake up yet.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Fred S on January 29, 2008, 04:15:30 AM
Maybe you can share the tweaks you did.

Not much, really.

A little verb and EQ. +4db around 60, a little cut at 200 & 600 and some boost at around 6K. I think it doesn't need quite as much midrange. Of course, if we were playing with bass guitar, I'd want to cut quite a bit down low in the non-solo sections and let the bass to the work....reduce the mud.

It plays well out of the box. But for me, getting the velosity curve as comfortable as possible is very important...hopefully, closer to a real piano. I go a little soft so I can play comfortably with out pushing the dynamics and then the accents come more natural with a little push. But everyone has their own playing style in this respect.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Mick Emery on February 01, 2008, 01:44:01 PM
WOW!!!
Beautiful piece.
Well constructed.
Well played.
I just love the flow & transitions.
Masterful.

Mick
PS> other than that...I thought it was pretty good! 


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Moon on February 01, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
Great song !!! I like it !!!

Moon


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on February 02, 2008, 07:04:22 PM
Thanks for the comments, Mick and Moon.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Marc JX8P on February 03, 2008, 12:55:53 AM
Great track, I love that piano sound. There is something a bit strange though in how the vocals mix with the rest, it's hard to explain but they seem too seperated from the other elements. The doubling of the vocal parts at the end works much better for me.

I love the other string parts - it feels a bit like a 60s/70s song to me the way they sound, kind of Beatles-Alan Parsons Project sound. Very, very good!


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: MarioD on February 03, 2008, 03:45:13 PM
Super production.  Great song.

Loved it.

It truly does set a very high standard for the rest of us.


Title: Re: Count to seven - Martin E and Fred S
Post by: Martin E on February 03, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
Thanks Marc and Mario


There is something a bit strange though in how the vocals mix with the rest, it's hard to explain but they seem too seperated from the other elements. The doubling of the vocal parts at the end works much better for me.


Yeah, I know what you mean. Once the track, in the near future hopefully, is properly mastered I think that seperation will disappear and the piano and vocal will glue together more.

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I love the other string parts - it feels a bit like a 60s/70s song to me the way they sound, kind of Beatles-Alan Parsons Project sound. Very, very good!

I take that as a big compliment because thats exactly what I was after. Thanks.