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This song needs a melody. Can someone help? The chords are C/Am/F/G. I think the song is something like Rock'n Roll.

Andreas

 :o
Hey, Andreas,

This is a pretty standard R'n'R set of phrases.
What are you looking for here?
If you want a straightforward guitar part I can do it.
If you are looking for a song ... do you have lyrics?
If you have something to share we may be able to get the Elderly Brothers to join in here, maybe  ::)

 ;)
James

Hmmm. 8 bar boogie. Would work very well with a song. Should be very easy to drop a melody on top of it for a singer. Let's see what The Elderlies come up with and maybe I can slide something in too :)

Closing chord should modulate to the first one. Sort of Daaaa - Dum ;D

Thank You Will.

You are perfectly right, the end must be still changed.

Andreas

 :D
Just to set this thing rolling ....
Here is a format which is : 16bars verse, 8bars chorus.  Same again another twice, then 16bars instrumental followed by 8bars chorus.
All rough takes, of course.  ::)
I think my older twin brother may be able to cobble together some lyrics that would fit into this pattern.
 ;D
James

Fits quite nicely.

If there's a vocal going on top I would suggest quite a bit of reverb on the guitar to push it back, and possibly pan it slightly to one side.

This incites memories..

 :D :P

I'll take it out for a spin and see if I can come up with something.

8)

Wyatt

Will, the whole guitar line is only as a 'marker' to help place a vocal.
If it does turn into a song I would re-work the guitar to fit round the vocal line.
 ;)
James

 :; :;

This would be a great fun ;D

I made a new ending, but I'm not really happy with this.

If you have a file with vocals or guitar (or something other) for me, you can send it via e-mail to ellie@soundklops.de

Andreas

Andreas, I am not a singer by any stretch of the imagination.  So here in my instrumental version based on your chord progression.

I hope you like it.

Very good work Mario! :- 8)

May I ask you if you can send me a file with your guitar playing only? So I could make some experiments with mixing. That would be a great pleasure for me.

Andreas

Absolutely no problem!

What format would you like it in?  MP3, Ape or Flac?

Hi Mario,

I have no problems with mp3 or wav. You can send the file to ellie@soundklops.de

Many Thanks

Did you get my email with the guitar part?

Yes

Many Thanks

Here is my version with Marios guitar part. I spread the stereo sound and put a reverse reverb on the guitar.

Andreas

Hmm my internal has a problem with this  :o
In certain spots it sounds like Mario is playing behind the beat  ??? Since Mario and I already did a couple of songs together, I don't believe this could be the case... is that the reversed reverb that is giving the impression ?

k

Thanks Kara

I killed the reverb that I added on the guitar part. Is this version better?

Andreas

I think what we are hearing is the timing problems with MP3 files. They will often not line up properly with the original tracks.
It is a good idea to exchange audio files in full-size .wav format, Ogg Vorbis, MonkeysAudio or FLAC. They will load properly, with accurate timing.

Because I enjoy the open-source software, I tend toward Ogg Vorbis or FLAC.

That is exactly right!  There is no timing problem in the original file and I sent Andreas an MP3 of just my guitar part.

Andreas, as I mention previously I can sent you either and Ape of Flac file if you need it.

Thanks Oren and Mario.

The best way for me is, if Mario could send me a wav file. So there is nothing to convert. If this is not possible I like to make a try with FLAC file. I just download Software to handle this format.

Andreas

Mario..  A+ on the guitar work.

SoundKlops..  When converting to .mp3, it always adds .025 second or so to the front of the song.

I have used .apes hundreds of times, and never had a problem.



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Wyatt

Thank you Wyatt for that tip.

I am very anxious for files from the Elderly Brothers. :)

Andreas

My apologies for slowness..I have been very swamped, (busy), here!!

8)

Wyatt

No problem Wyatt :D
It does not hurry.
I myself have a lot of work this week. :(

Andreas

Hi,

I think I know what's going wrong with the timing. If I'm right, it was my own mistake. When I use BiaB's real drums I have a two bar count in at the beginnig of the song. When always is done with the song I cut the count in out. This is handmade and not really exacly, but normaly it is no problem. See also screenshot01. That is what I have done with the version of ellie that Mario has used. And that was not very clever. Mario posted his version with guitar playing and send me a file which contains only the guitar part via e-mail. I import this file in my sequencer with all the other parts of the song. Because of my handmade cut at the beginning of the file it does not fit exactly. Theoretical the starting point for Marios guitar is 3:01:000, but this is a little to late. I set the starting point to 2:04:600 and the guitar timing fits. See also screenshot02.

Be sure, if I ever post a part of a song that have a two bar count in, I'll post it with the count in.

I am very hopefully that now the timing is correct. For my ears it is. If not, please send me a set of new ears (or nearly new). ;D

Andreas

Your ears are correct!  The timing is ok.

I also use a 2 bar count on all of my songs.  When collaborating with others I always send the 2 bar count along.  That way all of the parts will start at the same place.  If I receive a song with a count-in I keep the count in when I send my guitar part back to the originator for the same reason. You may want to consider this in the future.

PS – good job on the song!

Yep now it swings :)
I recognize Marios playing, slightly upbeat to give it the energy it needs  8)

Cool job guys

k

This sheer class now. A real toe-tapper.

Many thanks to all for listening, the friendly comments and the tips. 8)
It was a great pleasure to me and I think I have learned something.  ;)
Special thanks to Mario for his great guitar playing. :D 8) 8)

Now I'm looking forward what comes from the elderly brothers. :D
And maybe, I could mix everything together. :o

Thanks for so much fun in my life  :-

Andreas

Thanx to all for listening and the very kind words!

You have it, now! Smooth.... O0

cheezy stuff  :D  ::)

@ Oren
Thank you very much!  ;D 8)

@mlit
Sorry I can't find a translation for cheezy. I only can find a translation for cheesy. ???

Andreas