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Title: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on March 31, 2010, 10:24:28 PM
"Booze Makes You Stupid :D" is a song about those of us who, at one time or another, drink more than is wise....
So, here's the bass and drum track that I came up with, based on "ghosting" some ideas from the Monk's punk song "Drugs In My Pocket".
(I'll perform the bass again and do a better job... :-[)
If you feel inspired to contribute some vocals or instrumental tracks, use this as your backing track....

Beats per Minute: 70  The verse works in "A" , the chorus drops down to "E".


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on March 31, 2010, 10:38:32 PM
...and here is a brief clip of a vocal idea, just to give an idea of the "spirit" of the song...

(when rendering audio files for these collaborations, I have "dithering" turned off in all my audio applications, so that you can download them and apply editing and effects without getting any added noise in the process - I ask that you do the same - for the sake of best audio quality :-*)


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: kara on April 01, 2010, 09:51:01 AM
Certainly big potential here
I love that bass line BTW

k


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 01, 2010, 03:39:44 PM

...I love that bass line BTW...


Thanks, Kara... Just call me "Big Bottom" O0


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 01, 2010, 04:33:09 PM
For those who want to make their own mix of the song -      :; - here is the percussion track...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 01, 2010, 04:36:35 PM
...and seeing as how Kara thinks the bass is just fine :o, here it is in stereo...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 01, 2010, 04:39:27 PM
...or, if you prefer your bass track in monaural... :-*


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 04, 2010, 08:23:27 PM
checking things out oren.
cheers.


Title: heres some lyric ideas for comments oren.
Post by: manning on April 04, 2010, 10:04:54 PM
oren..
ok..mate ive mapped out some crazy lyrical concepts for this song.
n need yer comments.
i hear this sung in a daft cokney comic style.
heres the lyric concepts.
if yer ok with the general idea , i'll av a bash at vocs this week mate.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
v1,
booze makes yer stoopid, tis a well known fact.
you cant get it up with a bird in the sack.
ya got to sleep after a glass of wine,
leavin her unsatisfied most of the time.

chorus.(ch).
booze it up, booze it up.
you cant get it up, cos ya boozed it up.

v2.
you wobble down the street like a silly duck,
you loose yer job n yer mind gets stuck.
you throw up over yer nice new bed,
which you tumble into with yer face turning red.
repeat ch.

now a small talky.
"i went to this pub called the pissed kitten..
cos i was hard for jennifer the barmaid.
after closing time she takes me up
the "apples n pears" (stairs to bed..to those who dont know ).
i was hoping to get a little "hows yer father".
but boy was she mighty pissed , cos cos instead of a hard tripod
she got a limp dishrag".
repeat ch.

v3.
i once ad two birds in la belle province.
i chatted up at the local "danse".
but when i woke up they was snoggin each other..
cos i was in the land of nod n drunk as a bugger.
but i really got turned on that crazy night..
ole percy was doin a dance n gave me a fright.

v4.
i once met a duchess at a hunt.
what a corker she was with a nice soft "hows yer father".
she had a big ballroom n lots of champagne.
n she kept on yelling
"faster , faster, do me again".
but she wasnt so happy when i did her maid,
poor likkle mary just wanted to get laid.
repeat ch.

outtro.
when i look back at all the women n all the booze,
well the the booze got pissed down the flippin loo.
n i reckon i pissed off the women, most of the time TOO!!. (huh !!)
but dont blame me, i'm just a cokney lunk.
its in me genes to get laid n get blind drunk.
---------------------------------------------------
tell me your opinions oren, or anyone else.
then i'll do vocs with your amendments etc.
god bless.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 04, 2010, 10:16:28 PM
Beautiful!!!...an unqualified yes :-


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 05, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
ok mate.
gimme a few days to experiment with the vocs
lots to do. i just gotta finish up something else.
"wot a giggle it'll be"..lol.
all the best.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 05, 2010, 02:22:53 AM

"wot a giggle it'll be"..lol.

Wot a giggle, indeed! :;


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 05, 2010, 11:44:06 AM
ok mate.
but next song so people are scratchi their heads..
will be an old love song sinatra style croon...
all bout lovely fields n daisies n moonlight...lol.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 05, 2010, 03:55:52 PM

ok mate.
but next song so people are scratchi their heads..
will be an old love song sinatra style croon...
all bout lovely fields n daisies n moonlight...lol.



We can do this, although I'm more inclined towards Tony Bennett or Bing Crosby :o :D


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 05, 2010, 07:33:48 PM
oren.
yeh something in the style of a bing croon..
that would really fox people out..lol.

i'm in the middle of working up the arrangement mate.
so i'm slicing n cutting up your backing...
so i hope to have a ruff arrange in a couple of days.


if you can bear with me cos i need to devote time to my doggie
whereby we found out today needs surgery.
nothing major..but stuff to attend to mate.
we love our doggie of course.
i'll try n have a ruff arrange with vocs by wednesday hopefully.
as an mp3 you can critique.
all the best.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 05, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
 ::)
Don't know how this fits in with what has already been suggested.
I haven't had much time but have just thrown together 3 guitar tracks over half the song, to illustrate my way of thinking on this.

Let me know if any of it works with your ideas.  8)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 05, 2010, 11:48:23 PM

Let me know if any of it works with your ideas.
  8)

On time, in tune, and the right key - how could it not work? O0 Schweet guitar action, Pilgrim!
 You OK with a little slice-and-splice to fit the arrangement as it develops? Got individual tracks to post? What are you waiting for? :;


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 05, 2010, 11:56:17 PM
oren..
i wanted to get this ruff arrange to ya.
(mp3 attached.) for your feedback.
i left your voc in at begin cos i like it..
sorta an intro. but levels prob cos it has backing with it.
but no matter all ruff at this stage.

the one thing i think it needs n obviously youll have to redo
backing if you agree with arrange is..
mebe a key change ?? to make things more interesting ??
cos i was slicin n copying the backing n pasting etc to create the ruff arrange..
things are a tad off..but no matter.

anyhoo gimme yer feedback mate bad or good.
all the best.
ps..if you agree with the backing some lyrics need
furher finessing once i get final backing etc etc.
these are just lyric ideas at this point.



Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 06, 2010, 01:37:08 AM
Manning,

We have some action coming in from Thom(elwoodblues1969), and maybe a few other folks, so let's see what they have for us before doing any further arrangement. There may be several vocalists in the mix.
What you have there is already premium :- - if you're inclined to lay it down again to your satisfaction in this key as a monaural track and post it here, please do. If we need something more in another key, we can always ask.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 06, 2010, 07:16:58 AM
 ::)
Sorry, it was late last night when I made these.

Here are the three individual parts.
They are each One verse and One chorus, just ready to loop together in any combination.
I have taken the processing off and supplied the 'clean' guitar.

In the example I sent last night part 1 was thru GreeMachine, part2 thru FreeAmp and part 3 thru Voxenboogex.

Play with them as you will  :-X 8)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 06, 2010, 09:30:56 AM
oren.
ok mate..i'll spend a few more hours today with the vocs
n experimenting n then post the vocs monaural dry by emselves .
god bless.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: kara on April 06, 2010, 11:03:35 AM
oren..
i wanted to get this ruff arrange to ya.
(mp3 attached.) for your feedback.
i left your voc in at begin cos i like it..
sorta an intro. but levels prob cos it has backing with it.
but no matter all ruff at this stage.

the one thing i think it needs n obviously youll have to redo
backing if you agree with arrange is..
mebe a key change ?? to make things more interesting ??
cos i was slicin n copying the backing n pasting etc to create the ruff arrange..
things are a tad off..but no matter.

anyhoo gimme yer feedback mate bad or good.
all the best.
ps..if you agree with the backing some lyrics need
furher finessing once i get final backing etc etc.
these are just lyric ideas at this point.



Sounds like the Simpsons  ???  ;D

k


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 06, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
oren.
heres the ruff vocs by emselves dry mate attached.
so you can use  as you see fit.
(edit/slice/dice etc etc.)
feel free to critique.
if you dont like the voc style tell me,
(kara mentioned simpsons..so i dunno if thats bad or not..lol.)
cos i just was tryin to  make it daft.
but if thats not what ya want tell me.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on April 06, 2010, 09:41:08 PM
James,

I managed to locate and export my virtual vocal tracks,but once I had them in Audacity,I discovered that the effects were present.
I hope you can make use of these tracks.
:-\

-Thom


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 07, 2010, 04:36:22 AM
Manning, we'll work with what you have here, and ask for more if necessary. Thanks! :;

Thom, I can hardly wait to get going with this stuff! :-*


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 07, 2010, 11:25:12 AM
Oren
just call me Ed mate.
manning sounds so formal..lol.
n i'm a real friendly happy go lucky sorta guy
WHO LIKES TO PARTY !!..lol.
----------------------------------------------------
yeh i'll be curious to hear a ruff mix when youve done it.
anything you hate..just tell me.
i just want whats best for the song.
i just heard the vocs as zany.
but feel free to say "hey ed that sucks , try it in a more serious vocal style"
or whatever.  
all the best.

ps..re your pm ...i replied .
i wasnt aware..
so edit accordingly or tell me what to change .
by the way..lol...i drink mainly tea, ..
n mebe one glass of port a week.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 07, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
...and just in case anyone besides Thom is deluded enough :o to want to use my original "example" vocal in a production, here it is...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 07, 2010, 09:02:21 PM
 :o
So much activity ..... and me am SO busy at home right now ...  :-[

I shall take all this stuff onboard and report back in a few days.   :-X

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 09, 2010, 12:29:27 AM
James - never any hurry, here - you know this... :D

Here is a preliminary mix, with the song chopped down to 3minutes 42seconds...

Anyone who wants to lay down new tracks for their part, based on this arrangement, go for it, and post them here.
...or if the arrangement bites ::), suggest alterations...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: kara on April 09, 2010, 06:44:15 AM
 ;D
A very fun song  :-
Interesting mix you did Oren, you put quite some work in this and the result is top notch  8)

k


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 09, 2010, 07:59:29 AM

A very fun song  :-
Interesting mix you did Oren, you put quite some work in this and the result is top notch
  8)


Thanks for listening, Kara! If all the material remains as it is, I'll adjust the compression, EQ, and reverb to bring out each instrument and vocal.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 09, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
 :;
WOW, Mr Fisher ......  :;

That is one fabulous mix, brother  :-

You saved me the time ..... that is SO the way I was hearing this one !!

Just wrap it up, my man  O0

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on April 09, 2010, 11:55:20 PM
Very clean,mean & pristine Oren! O0 Masterfully edited as well!! :-

-Thom


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 10, 2010, 07:53:38 AM
Thanks, gentlemen! :-*

Now for some finishing work...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 11, 2010, 04:10:29 AM
Done! :; ..that was fun...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 11, 2010, 09:10:30 PM
(http://bestsmileys.com/music1/8.gif)

CLASSIC   :-

The best thing about this mix, my friend .... is ....

the selection of the 'smallest' snippets to give the 'biggest' impact.  :;

(http://bestsmileys.com/music1/9.gif)

Good one, Mr Canada.  :-*

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: folderol on April 11, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
I was a bit too 'preoccupied' to follow this (my loss) but the end result is a classic :-


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 11, 2010, 11:42:22 PM
Thanks, Gents - I hear "classic" twice, which is good... O0

Alcohol abuse is a problem in Canada - more so, in light of the fact that most Canadians think there is no problem.
With luck, this little ditty will do it's part to influence some of us to moderate our intake... ::)


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: MarioD on April 12, 2010, 01:49:55 PM
Make that “classic” three times  :; :; :;

Super lyrics and vocals here. 

I just wish I knew that you guys were spying on me  >:(--- ::)--- ;D


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 12, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
oren.
i like that instrument sound starting 1min31secs.
what did you use to get that mate ??
i like this mix. n the sunglasses..lol.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: offthewall on April 12, 2010, 09:02:50 PM
Ed,
Quote
i like that instrument sound starting 1min31secs.
what did you use to get that mate ??

That was my Epi LP Special, switched to mid position (both p-ups), and D/I'ed clean.
What Oren has done after that .... I have no idea  ::)

 ;)
James


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 12, 2010, 09:20:16 PM

That was my Epi LP Special, switched to mid position (both p-ups), and D/I'ed clean.
What Oren has done after that .... I have no idea  ::)


Ed,
I duplicated James' monaural track, delayed one slightly, then panned them left and right. A little reverb on the whole stereo guitar track brought it into the same "room" as the vocals.

Mario,
During the time we were spying on you, we frequently asked the question "How can that guy drink so much, and be so cool?". My opinion: it's probably all that hair... end of story ;).


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: kara on April 13, 2010, 06:42:38 AM
premium quality  8) :-

k


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 13, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
offthewall.
super nice lick that at 1min31secs mate.
LOVE IT !!

as an aside chaps and i hope you dont hate on me...
just drawing your attention to this for interest cos it rocks imho..
n mebe you havent seen it.
macca rocks out red square...WOW !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRu9yzlTRI&feature=related
i love how the russians are going bonkers n just haveing a ton of
jolly good old fun in this video.
i would love to rock this song out sometime with some good folks on here for fun.
yeh i know sposed to do originals..but the song rocks imho..lol.
could be a ton of fun to do sometime with a nice fast tempo.

rock on chaps. lol.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 13, 2010, 07:28:56 PM
ps..
i couldnt resist...lol.
its rough...but just a giggle.
done in an hour...
can ya figure out how i did the jet sound ??..lol.
if anyone feels like doin it properly ..
gimme a shout.
http://stashbox.org/855591/back.mp3


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on April 14, 2010, 01:24:46 AM

i couldnt resist...lol.
its rough...but just a giggle.
done in an hour...



Sounds better than McCartney... :o - even sounds like you conjured up Ringo on the drums!

Ed,
I'm up for "ghosting" this tune, and collaborating on a song of our own with this basic chord structure and some fresh lyrical ideas...


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: manning on April 14, 2010, 11:27:30 AM
Oren.
re sounds better.
your too kind mate..but i just didnt have time.(tons of flaws.)
cos i was baby sitting my dear doggie thats just
had some surgery. (all went good.).
i was just poncing around with it for laffs.
didnt even have the time to do vocs properly.
cos many family things to do.
blinkin tax season ya know..lol.
so just one shot ruffs. n guides.
it needs to be done properly with proper backing etc etc.
frankly i would like to do it properly n it needs a live drummer also.
n bass support n lots of other things.


i would like to comment bout one thing.
re songwriting.  
i feel what the song illustrates is the importance of
hooks , paceing/tempo and  how even simple chord structures can be very effective.
i used to have blazeing debates..lol.. with good folks into chamber music and
various advanced chord structures. who would look down on this type of song.
my argument was often however you just cant beat a well produced
danceable song with a good beat.

like you i'm up for anything.
particularly uptempo that ROCKS..lol.
ps..watch the drummer carefully in the you tube vid.
superb drummer.


Title: Re: Booze Makes You Stupid
Post by: Oren on December 31, 2012, 05:55:58 AM
...and in LAME VBR to play back on your mp3 hardware...