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Title: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on July 31, 2011, 05:28:51 PM
Here is a bit of the bass/percussion track from the song I'm producing for the album, tentatively titled "Strength in Measure".
In LAME VBR...


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: magmavander on July 31, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
Wow! Damn groovy!! I didnt expect such style from you  :o Great. I hope to hear the finished version very soon. Maginifique  :;


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on August 01, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
Woah-hey-ho-yo-damn...I like,I like a whole lot! (http://planetsmilies.net/cool-smiley-8925.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)

An equally groovy & impressive drum track to fit the bass-mastering.....bravo,Mr.Fisher!!(http://planetsmilies.net/cool-smiley-9017.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)

Need any assistance in the key department?Let me know!
 8)


-Thom



Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 01, 2011, 08:32:41 PM
Wow! Damn groovy!! I didnt expect such style from you  :o Great. I hope to hear the finished version very soon. Maginifique  :;

Magmavander,
I wanted to do something extraordinary in memory of Rony/Kara. Very glad you like it! Merci bien...

Thom,
It would be cool to have the Sneddon effect working on this tune... 8)
I'll twist up a .wav copy of the whole rhythm track and send it your way - give me a couple of days.


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: folderol on August 02, 2011, 05:26:48 PM
This is some seriously tasty stuff O0


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 04, 2011, 09:09:52 PM
Will,
Thanks for listening. With luck this will develop as so many projects here at K-M do... ending up bigger than the sum of our artistic abilities... :D

Here is a slice of mixdown featuring some bits of ivory tinkling from the inimitable T. Sneddon, Esquire...


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Azell on August 09, 2011, 08:50:07 PM
BRAVO les gars, vous êtes les meilleurs, continuez comme ça; je vais devoir prendre des jours de congés pour pouvoir écouter tout ce que vous faites

Bravo guys, you're the best, keep it up, I'll have to take days off to be able to listen to everything you do
 :; :; :; :- :- :-


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 10, 2011, 01:50:45 AM
................ :-*....................... ;D........................ :-


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 10, 2011, 04:55:43 PM
Time for some constructive criticism, friends. This is a rough mix, and I'd like to see as much collaboration as possible in refining it... O0
('cause everybody knows Thom and I need all the help we can get... :D)

...a new song title: "Notre Bon Ami" - what do you think - does it work...?


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Azell on August 10, 2011, 05:05:42 PM
SUPERBE
can I have lyrics?


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on August 10, 2011, 07:15:39 PM
Oren,

The bass line is domineering,particularly around the 600Hz range.The drums are fine...but the keys sit too far off in the distance.

Overall,the audio fidelity is poor.

On a more personal note,I don't find any appeal whatsoever in the heavy metal guitar work in this song,as I feel that one genre is intruding into another....sort of like when your listening to a radio station and the signal gets interrupted by another radio station's signal.
I feel that there is a lot of meandering going with this arrangement.Sorry to be so raw in my observations,but at this particular stage of development,I find it truly disappointing.


-Thom


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 10, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Notre Bon Ami
...
They say it's too late to set the record straight,
But still, I'm going to try.
If I had known you were leaving, friend,
I would have said goodbye.

I hope you knew how much I thought of you...

Can you hear me friend, can you hear this song?
Notre bon ami had it going on.

What happens now? I really don't know,
It's sad to see you go...



Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 10, 2011, 09:13:01 PM

...The bass line is domineering,particularly around the 600Hz range...

...the keys sit too far off in the distance...

...the audio fidelity is poor...

...I don't find any appeal whatsoever in the heavy metal guitar work in this song,as I feel that one genre is intruding into another...

...there is a lot of meandering going with this arrangement..
.

Two guys are going to make a cake. One guy is providing most of the ingredients and mixing the batter.
His friend is providing some choice ingredients, and is invited over to taste the batter. His comment: "Gee, I'm quite disappointed in this cake, man".
My point - it's still just a goopy mess - let's reserve any emotional response until it's out of the oven... :D

Don't sweat it , friend - it's still early days!
       _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Some compression and EQ at 600Hz on the bass line are in order - easily done.

Bring up the keys a bit - good plan.

I tend to like a lo-fi sound, but still, once EQ and compression are applied to each track, things will tighten up considerably.

Rony was always after me to play louder and longer, so I went for it here - probably a bad idea... ::)
Fortunately, I can re-do the guitar parts in just about any conceivable style (he's boasting, now ;D), so I'll go for a clean sound - maybe  some Dooby Brothers harmony action.

Meandering is a personal style - it sorta suits my creative method - I hate to over-control a project. I'm thinking that once we have executed all the production suggestions, this puppy will establish its own direction... here's hoping...
Thanks for the advice, New Jersey - we will prevail... O0




Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: offthewall on August 10, 2011, 09:29:21 PM
 :-\
Well,
I got to say that I haven't had much time lately to look in here ...
but I have followed this one with interest  8)

I just had a quick listen, after reading Thom's comments, with guitar in hand to see if I would approach this piece from a different direction. I thought, maybe, the acoustic way ...

but, no  :o

I feel the style is spot on, Mr Fisher.   As per usual.  :;

James


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 10, 2011, 09:48:50 PM
...I just had a quick listen, after reading Thom's comments, with guitar in hand to see if I would approach this piece from a different direction. I thought, maybe, the acoustic way ...

Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment, Mr. Fraser!

This is an approach to production I've never tried before, so the genre (sampled and looped percussion) is unfamiliar. Perhaps some more experimentation is in order, with a lighter touch on my instrument - given what a heavy-handed bunch we guitarists are known to be... :o... ;)


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Azell on August 11, 2011, 09:17:25 PM
Notre Bon Ami
...
They say it's too late to set the record straight,
But still, I'm going to try.
If I had known you were leaving, friend,
I would have said goodbye.

I hope you knew how much I thought of you...

Can you hear me friend, can you hear this song?
Notre bon ami had it going on.

What happens now? I really don't know,
It's sad to see you go...



merci pour les paroles, très jolies, bises


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 11, 2011, 11:07:43 PM
merci pour les paroles, très jolies, bises
Il n'y a pas de quoi... :)


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Azell on August 12, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
mais si, mais si...


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 13, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
One more time...
Guitar attenuated - bass compressed - keyboard brought forward - vocals compressed - various weird analog noises removed ;D
Constructive criticism invited... O0


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 14, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
...and what may be the final version - drums given more dynamic range - stereo image improved. My only remaining concern is that the bass guitar may still be too loud...

Comments...?



Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Azell on August 14, 2011, 05:42:58 PM
 :; :; :; :; :; :;


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on August 14, 2011, 05:47:11 PM
The bass sounds balanced to me-a bit more pronounced maybe,in contrast to the lo-fi quality of my tracks perhaps,but then that's the type of sound you had aimed for.
The drums are where they should be and your axe tracks are clear & pristine,so I think the bass level is fine.

Hey....isn't Bon Ami a bathroom cleanser? ;)



-Thom


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: magmavander on August 14, 2011, 07:37:21 PM
OMG!! Thats totaly awesome :o
You've been infected by The Funk; isn't it ?
I enjoyed every bits of it. Wonderful instrumentation. Killer bassline. Klavinett and ePiano are tasty. And the vocal fits so well.
Fantastic one!!!
MERCI  :;


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: magmavander on August 14, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
Please excuse me, I forget the awesome guitar  ::) pfiuuuuu...


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: offthewall on August 14, 2011, 09:30:52 PM
Quote
OMG!! Thats totaly awesome  :o
You've been infected by The Funk

 :; :;  WOOT !!! WOOT !!! WOOT !!!


 ;)
James


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: folderol on August 14, 2011, 10:33:06 PM
Wow!


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 15, 2011, 07:42:51 AM
Am I to get the impression that this mix will suffice...?... :D

Will,
Thanks for monitoring this one. I know it's miles from where you normally roam.

James,
I left the guitar alone as you had suggested (just lowered the levels), after trying several different styles that proved unsatisfactory. Thanks for helping with your six-string perspective.

Magmavander,
It is largely as a result of listening to your music that I was inspired to try working with this genre. Very happy you like it... :-

Thom,
The song matured and became viable because of your keyboard contributions and excellent criticism. Thanks again, hoser!
(yes, it's a cleanser. In France it's named "Good Friend"... ;D)

Azell,
A good song about a good man. He is still inspiring us to do our best work.


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 18, 2011, 06:44:19 PM
...and a nod to the artists who generously supplied drum loops from Looperman.com -

eshar http://www.looperman.com/profile.php?mid=583767
SintheticRecords http://www.looperman.com/profile.php?mid=403648
Planetjazzbass http://www.looperman.com/profile.php?mid=111346


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Moon on August 22, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
Sounds fantastic to my ears! Top class. I'm sure Kara would have liked this one very much!

Moon


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 23, 2011, 08:36:37 PM
... I'm sure Kara would have liked this one very much...
Thanks, man.
For this song, that is all that matters :)


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Marc JX8P on August 30, 2011, 04:46:11 PM
THIS IS FANTASTIC! Great work Oren and all contributors! I love the funky nature of the track and how it contrasts with the lyrics. Great choice of sounds and I like the vocal very much. Great ending as well.


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on August 30, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
...I love the funky nature of the track and how it contrasts with the lyrics. Great choice of sounds...

All right! When the Netherlander likes it, we are in good form, indeed. Thanks for listening, Marc! 8)


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: MarioD on September 13, 2011, 12:05:01 AM
What a great tribute

It’s all been said but I’ll say outstanding anyway :;

PS - super chops my friend O0


Title: Re: Strength in Measure
Post by: Oren on September 15, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
...super chops my friend...
Damn, I like the sound of that...(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-024.gif)