Title: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: falcon74 on December 03, 2019, 02:24:19 PM
Hi, Admittedly, I am new to Linux Music/Audio, so some of what I write might be pretty naive or even stupid. Based on what I have understood, apart from what is perhaps the default for FluidSynth, i.e. FluidR3_GM.sf2, there are these alternative SoundFonts that I have on my system, that I've played around with: - Guitars-Universal-V1.5.sf2
- Nice-Keys-B-Plus-JN1.4.sf2
- SGM-v2.01-NicePianosGuitarsBass-V1.2.sf2
- OmegaGMGS2.sf2
The Guitars-Universal one has very nice guitar sounds, the Nice-Keys has pretty good keys and pads, OmegaGMGS sounds somewhat better than FluidR3_GM. However SGM-NicePianosGuitarBass seems to offer the best overall sound (with pretty rich base). However, I am not sure that the sound-font is missing some sounds or not. Are there other good soundfonts that cover the full range of banks for GM ? How can I check if some instruments a midi-file requires are missing ? What happens when an instrument is missing from a sound-font ? Is there a fallback to some default sounds ? cheers, f74
Title: Re: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: sciurius on December 03, 2019, 04:04:03 PM
I have good experiences with the CrisisGM font, and the AirFonts (340, 380). Sonatina_Symphonic_Orchestra is also nice.
I'm not sure what happens when an instrument is missing from a font. Good chance you'll hear nothing, or a piano sound. It probably depends on the program playing the midi.
Title: Re: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: falcon74 on December 04, 2019, 06:48:35 AM
Thank you @sciurius. Will try out those sound-fonts. Will also try to find out about the expected behaviour of Fluidsynth when soundfont for some instrument are missing. Wondering if there is any way to use multiple soundfonts i.e. some banks / instruments served by one soundfont file, while others from another. Found out about SWAMI that can be used to edit soundfonts. Worst case one could statically mix into a new soundfount, using the best of both worlds, but I suspect there may be some lingering copyright issues.
Title: Re: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: falcon74 on December 04, 2019, 07:32:02 AM
How to list instruments available in a soundfont file ? $ echo "inst 1" | fluidsynth /path/to/FluidR3_GM.sf2 Thanks to this Stackoverflow answer (https://stackoverflow.com/a/19126348/409251). As per this the SGM-v2.01-NicePianosGuitarsBass-V1.2.sf2 seems to be pretty comprehensive. Here's the output: 000-000 Grand Piano 000-001 Bright Grand 000-002 Piano 3 000-003 Honky-Tonk 000-004 E.Piano 1 000-005 E.Piano2 000-006 Harpsichord 000-007 Clav. 000-008 Celesta 000-009 Glockenspiel 000-010 Music Box 000-011 Vibraphone 000-012 Marimba 000-013 Xylophone 000-014 Tubular Bells 000-015 Dulcimer 000-016 Organ 1 000-017 Organ 2 000-018 Organ 3 000-019 Pipe Organ 000-020 Reed Organ 000-021 Accordion 000-022 Harmonica 000-023 Bandoneon 000-024 Nylon Guitar 000-025 Steel Guitar 000-026 Jazz Guitar 000-027 Clean Guitar 000-028 Muted Guitar 000-029 Overdrive Guitar 000-030 Distortion Guitar 000-031 Gt.Harmonics 000-032 Acoustic Bass 000-033 Fingered Bass 000-034 Picked Bass 000-035 Fretless Bass 000-036 Slap Bass 1 000-037 Slap Bass 2 000-038 Synth Bass 1 000-039 Synth Bass 2 000-040 Violin 000-041 Viola 000-042 Cello 000-043 Contrabass 000-044 Tremolo Strings 000-045 Pizzicato Strings 000-046 Harp 000-047 Timpani 000-048 Strings 000-049 Slow Strings 000-050 Synth Strings 1 000-051 Synth Strings 2 000-052 Choir Aahs 000-053 Voice Oohs 000-054 Synth Vox 000-055 OrchestraHit 000-056 Trumpet 000-057 Trombone 000-058 Tuba 000-059 MutedTrumpet 000-060 French Horns 000-061 Brass 1 000-062 Synth Brass 1 000-063 Synth Brass 2 000-064 Soprano Sax 000-065 Alto Sax 000-066 Tenor Sax 000-067 Baritone Sax 000-068 Oboe 000-069 English Horn 000-070 Bassoon 000-071 Clarinet 000-072 Piccolo 000-073 Flute 000-074 Recorder 000-075 Pan Flute 000-076 Bottle Blow 000-077 Shakuhachi 000-078 Whistle 000-079 Ocarina 000-080 Square Wave 000-081 Saw Wave 000-082 Synth Calliope 000-083 Chiffer Lead 000-084 Charang 000-085 Solo Vox 000-086 5th Saw Wave 000-087 Bass & Lead 000-088 Fantasia 000-089 Warm Pad 000-090 Polysynth 000-091 Space Voice 000-092 Bowed Glass 000-093 Metal Pad 000-094 Halo Pad 000-095 Sweep Pad 000-096 Ice Rain 000-097 Soundtrack 000-098 Crystal 000-099 Atmosphere 000-100 Brightness 000-101 Goblin 000-102 Echo Drops 000-103 Star Theme 000-104 Sitar 000-105 Banjo 000-106 Shamisen 000-107 Koto 000-108 Kalimba 000-109 Bagpipe 000-110 Fiddle 000-111 Shenai 000-112 Tinkle Bell 000-113 Agogo 000-114 Steel Drums 000-115 Woodblock 000-116 Taiko 000-117 Melodic Tom 000-118 Synth Drum 000-119 Reverse Cym. 000-120 Gt.FretNoise 000-121 Breath Noise 000-122 Seashore 000-123 Bird 000-124 Telephone 000-125 Helicopter 000-126 Applause 000-127 Gun Shot 001-005 12 String Guitar 001-008 Pop Celesta 001-025 12 String Guitar 001-028 Muted Dis.Gt 001-050 OB Strings 001-073 Flute 2 001-080 MG Square 001-088 Fantasia 2 001-122 Rain 002-050 StackStrings 002-080 Hollow Mini 002-082 Pure PanLead 002-087 Fat & Perky 002-092 JP8 Sqr Pad 002-120 String Slap 002-122 Thunder 002-127 Laser Gun 003-050 JP Strings 003-055 Euro Hit 003-080 Mellow FM 003-098 Round Glock 003-122 Wind 003-123 Bird 2 003-126 Punch 003-127 Explosion 004-030 Dist.Fast : 004-035 Syn Fretless 004-080 CC Solo 004-087 JP8 BsLead(sybs2sq) 004-098 Loud Glock 004-122 Stream 004-124 Scratch 004-125 Car-Crash 004-126 Heart Beat 005-122 Bubble 005-124 Windchimes 005-125 Siren 005-126 Footsteps 006-080 LM Square 006-081 GR-300 006-120 Pick Scrape 006-125 Train 007-125 Jetplane 008-007 Comp Clav. 008-031 Gt. Feedback 008-038 Acid Bass 008-052 St.ChoirAahs 008-055 Impact Hit 008-080 2600 Sine 008-100 Org Bell 008-103 Dream Pad 008-115 Castanets 008-116 Concert BD 008-118 808 Tom 008-125 Starship 009-011 Vibraphones 009-052 Melted Choir 009-080 Sine Lead 009-103 Silky Pad 010-080 KG Lead 010-098 Music Bell 010-118 Sine Perc. 010-124 Phono Noise 011-124 MC-500 Beep 016-012 Barafon 016-018 Rotary Org.S 016-025 Mandolin 016-030 Power Guitar 016-071 Multi Wind 016-080 P5 Square 016-084 P5 Sync Lead 016-113 Tambourine 016-117 Rash SD 017-080 OB Square 017-090 ReverseSweep 018-080 JP-8 Square 020-038 Hammer 022-120 A.Bs Slap Nz (1) 023-120 A.Bs Slap Nz (2) 024-005 Hard FM EP 024-030 Rock Rhythm 024-061 Octave Brass 024-115 Finger Snaps 024-120 A.Bs Slap Nz (3) 025-030 Rock Rhythm2 026-030 Dist Rtm GTR 035-081 Oct Saw Lead 040-081 SequencedSaw (1) 041-081 SequencedSaw (2) 046-081 SequencedSaw 120-000 STANDARD 1 120-001 STANDARD 2 120-002 STANDARD 3 120-003 ROOM 127-000 GS STANDARD 1 127-001 GS STANDARD 2 127-002 GS STANDARD 3 127-003 - 127-004 -- 127-005 --- 127-006 ---- 127-007 ----- 127-008 GS ROOM 127-009 GS HIP HOP 127-010 GS JUNGLE 127-011 GS TECHNO 127-012 ------ 127-013 GS HOUSE 127-016 GS POWER 127-017 ------- 127-024 GS ELECTRONIC 127-025 GS TR-808 127-026 GS CR-78 127-027 GS DANCE 127-028 -------- 127-029 GS TR-707 127-030 GS TR-909 127-031 --------- 127-032 GS JAZZ 127-033 ---------- 127-040 GS BRUSH 127-041 ----------- 127-048 GS ORCHESTRA 127-049 GS ETHNIC 127-050 GS KICK & SNARE 127-051 ------------ 127-056 GS SFX 127-057 ------------- 127-064 -------------- 127-065 ---------------- 127-066 ----------------- 127-117 Taiko (sc55 map) 127-126 ------------------ 127-127 ------------------- 128-000 STANDARD 1 128-001 STANDARD 2 128-002 STANDARD 3 128-008 ROOM 128-009 HIP HOP 128-010 JUNGLE 128-011 TECHNO 128-012 --------------- 128-013 HOUSE 128-016 POWER 128-024 ELECTRONIC 128-025 TR-808 128-026 DANCE 128-027 CR-78 128-029 TR-707 128-030 TR-909 128-032 JAZZ 128-040 BRUSH 128-048 ORCHESTRA 128-049 ETHNIC 128-050 KICK & SNARE 128-056 SFX 128-064 --SGM drum kits--
Title: Re: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: sciurius on December 04, 2019, 10:53:19 AM
I don't know about fluidsynth, but Timidity++ takes a config file where you can define your own instrument mappings. For example a section from my ' Bass.cfg': bank 0 0 %font 1115-Bass_Jam.sf2 0 0 # BassJam 1 %font 1115-BassPONK.sf2 0 0 # BassPonk 2 %font 1115-Filter_Bass_1.sf2 0 1 # Filter Bass 1 3 %font 1115-Fingered_bass_One.sf2 0 0 # Fingered Bass One 4 %font 1115-Roland_Novation_Bass.sf2 0 0 # Roland Novation Bass 5 %font 1276-FReTLeZzz.sf2 0 0 # NARUBASSO 16 %font 241-Bassguitars.sf2 0 0 # Bassgitaar2 17 %font 241-Bassguitars.sf2 0 1 # Bassgitaar3 18 %font 241-Bassguitars.sf2 0 2 # Bassgitaar4 19 %font 241-Bassguitars.sf2 0 3 # Bassgitaar5
As you can see it maps entries from several different sount fonts. An example (template) config can be generated from a soundfont file using the attached perl script. You must rename sf_list.txt to sf_list.pl. $ perl sf_list.pl -c my_soundfont.sf2
Title: Re: High quality soundfonts as alternative to FluidR3_GM.sf2
Post by: falcon74 on December 04, 2019, 07:39:44 PM
Great thanks. What Timidity can do with respect to using multiple sf2 files for various instruments is impressive.
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