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« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2009, 05:01:28 PM »

Here you go fellas:

http://www.wavosaur.com/streamosaur/

This is tailor made for recording streamed audio.

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« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2009, 07:44:45 PM »

This is what Sound Forge is telling me:
                                                    
Cursor position (Time)           00:00:00,000       
Sample value at cursor (dB)      -74,746             
Minimum sample position (Time)   00:00:06,904       
Minimum sample value (dB)        -4,314             
Maximum sample position (Time)   00:00:02,305       
Maximum sample value (dB)        -4,314             
RMS level (dB)                   -7,362             
Average value (dB)               -Inf.               
Zero crossings (Hz)              528,00             

528 Hz !
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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2009, 08:16:20 PM »

Here you go fellas:
http://www.wavosaur.com/streamosaur/
This is tailor made for recording streamed audio.
Cool
Wyatt


Thanks, man... but does this mean I have to fire up my Windows computer? Maybe there's something equivalent in Linux....

James,
Can you use this?
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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2009, 08:23:30 PM »

This is what Sound Forge is telling me:
                                                    
Cursor position (Time)           00:00:00,000       
Sample value at cursor (dB)      -74,746             
Minimum sample position (Time)   00:00:06,904       
Minimum sample value (dB)        -4,314             
Maximum sample position (Time)   00:00:02,305       
Maximum sample value (dB)        -4,314             
RMS level (dB)                   -7,362             
Average value (dB)               -Inf.               
Zero crossings (Hz)              528,00             

528 Hz !

Thanks for checking! So, SoundForge measures the sine wave sample generated by Audacity at 528 Hz. Good to know 
 Reaper and Sound Forge indicate that the frequency is reasonably accurate, and I feel confident using it as the frequency around which I can build my song.
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« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2009, 09:02:27 PM »

Hey,
I tried Wyatt's Streamosaur and got a terrible recording  Roll Eyes
but did manage to boost things and get a general reading.
It varied mostly between C1 and C#1, with the majority on the C#1.

Hope this helps.

As for the 'tunable' whistle.
I have one or two that are tunable, but that only makes a very small distinction to be able to slightly retune to other instruments if, for example, the temperature puts things out of pitch.
When the time comes let me know and I will see what I can do.  Lips Sealed

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James


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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2009, 10:56:40 PM »

I tried Wyatt's Streamosaur and got a terrible recording  Roll Eyes
but did manage to boost things and get a general reading.
It varied mostly between C1 and C#1, with the majority on the C#1.

As for the 'tunable' whistle.
I have one or two that are tunable, but that only makes a very small distinction to be able to slightly retune to other instruments if, for example, the temperature puts things out of pitch.
When the time comes let me know and I will see what I can do.  Lips Sealed
James,
Thanks for the measurement!
69.52 Hz puts it somewhat close to 66 Hz, a low octave of 528 Hz, but not close enough to conclude that the horn is tuned specifically to conform to one of the ancient scales. It's "in the ball park", though... Wink

We'll give one of those whistles a go at our first opportunity - I love the sound!
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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2009, 11:16:17 PM »

Thanks, man... but does this mean I have to fire up my Windows computer? Maybe there's something equivalent in Linux....

..sorries.. Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue

I forgot about your linux.

I'm sticking with XP until they start calling it a vintage OS.    Grin Cheesy Wink

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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2009, 04:11:38 PM »

Thanks, man... but does this mean I have to fire up my Windows computer? Maybe there's something equivalent in Linux....

I forgot about your linux.

I'm sticking with XP until they start calling it a vintage OS.    Grin Cheesy Wink

Here is "Ardour" at work.
The project was originally called "Sweet Beat". As you can see I am using Ardour as a tracker, looping samples of my voice and bass guitar to produce solid timing and tuning (that I likely would not achieve playing the whole thing in one take Roll Eyes)
The guitar is next - I'll lay down 4 or 5 tracks, then sample the best riffs and use Ardour to assemble a complete guitar track.
.............Then, repeat for the harmony guitar parts.


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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2009, 04:33:01 PM »

Here is "Ardour" at work.
The project was originally called "Sweet Beat". As you can see I am using Ardour as a tracker, looping samples of my voice and bass guitar to produce solid timing and tuning (that I likely would not achieve playing the whole thing in one take Roll Eyes)
The guitar is next - I'll lay down 4 or 5 tracks, then sample the best riffs and use Ardour to assemble a complete guitar track.
.............Then, repeat for the harmony guitar parts.


I like to see them as well as hear them.

Cool picture..thanks!

How do you do your harmony tracks?

Cool

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« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2009, 08:58:23 PM »

I like to see them as well as hear them.
Cool picture..thanks!
How do you do your harmony tracks?

Same as you, Oklahoma... Just holler like a banshee until I hit the right note... Cheesy
Ditto for guitar harmonies - just thrash and flail until something sounds like it fits  Shocked... then move on to the next phrase....
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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2009, 09:01:50 PM »

I like to see them as well as hear them.
Cool picture..thanks!
How do you do your harmony tracks?

Same as you, Oklahoma... Just holler like a banshee until I hit the right note... Cheesy
Ditto for guitar harmonies - just thrash and flail until something sounds like it fits  Shocked... then move on to the next phrase....

Thought I heard somethin'.    Tongue Cheesy Wink

Cool

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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2009, 09:33:00 PM »

Oi! You lot keep the *%^$£@# noise down.
There's people trying to get some sleep over here Grin
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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2009, 11:07:11 PM »

Oi! You lot keep the *%^$£@# noise down.
There's people trying to get some sleep over here Grin

 Cheesy
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« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2009, 08:43:51 AM »

This is a VERY interesting thread! I'm wondering if what we're seeing here is simply shortcomings in the frequency analysing algorythms. Like it has been said before, generating a certain frequency sine wave shouldn't be a problem mathematically. However, I imagine that in analysing the frequency you bump into all kinds of rounding problems and stuff. This would be confirmed if the same software (of the same version) produces an identical result across different pc's (I'll have to reread the thread again to check if your results already confirmed that though).

Very cool discussion in any case and thx Oren for bringing it up!

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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2009, 12:24:29 PM »

Hey,
I tried Wyatt's Streamosaur and got a terrible recording  Roll Eyes

If it needs more volume, this may help:


http://www.wavosaur.com/streamosaur/record-web-radio.php

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