Ancestry

[Oren]

Here is a little Rhodes piano composition that is the basis for a song about the possibility we may receive advice and assistance from our ancestors. I've always found it a fascinating concept, and now a "medium" by the name of Allison Dubois has made a very public assertion that is does, in fact, occur.

The song will eventually be performed with C = 528 Hz, but while it is still in concert pitch, I thought I'd run the basic progression by you.

[Wyatt]

Very pretty stuff Oren. Solid beginning and intriguing as well..

Can't wait to hear what you do with it.



Wyatt

[elwoodblues1969]

Interesting Foundation Oren....some nice changes in this piece. 8)Have no clue what C= 528Hz is,or what concert pitch is...sounds like chaos math to me.

-Thom

[Oren]

Very pretty stuff Oren. Solid beginning and intriguing as well..
Can't wait to hear what you do with it.

Wyatt,

Upon further reflection, it sounds like a good idea to add a little more interest with the Rhodes where the chord changes are sparse. The piano will be accompanied by just a vocal and one guitar, and maybe some understated electric bass.

Thanks for taking the time to listen...

[Oren]

Interesting Foundation Oren....some nice changes in this piece. 8)Have no clue what C= 528Hz is,or what concert pitch is...sounds like chaos math to me.

Thom,

In recent times, some folks decided to standardize music to the seven-note scale we use today. Previous to that, a lot of European music was based on a scale known as "Solfeggio". Currently, C5 on the keyboard is 523.25 Hz - the older scale had C5 tuned to 528 Hz.

Some synth players re-tune their instruments to the old scale. I prefer the sound of it.
It's tricky to play guitar in a composition based on the Solfeggio scale, because of the way it is fretted, but it's possible... 

From Michael Walton:" KEYBOARD PLAYERS can easily retune their instruments to the equivalent of a 528Hz. The Korg Oasys keyboard calibrates to 444.09Hz in the global preferences; virtually all other synthesizers and software based synthesizers can be set to precisely 444Hz. These settings will immediately give you the ability to play in harmony with retuned stringed instruments."

[MarioD]

Very pretty stuff Oren. Solid beginning and intriguing as well..
Can't wait to hear what you do with it.

Wyatt,

Upon further reflection, it sounds like a good idea to add a little more interest with the Rhodes where the chord changes are sparse. The piano will be accompanied by just a vocal and one guitar, and maybe some understated electric bass.

Thanks for taking the time to listen...

Great idea Oren.  Adding to many instruments would mess this up IMHO.

FWIW my line up, based on just this Rhodes, would be nylon string guitar, upright bass, a flute and vocals (yours of course).

This has the makings of a very pretty song. Good luck with it. 

[Oren]

Great idea Oren.  Adding too many instruments would mess this up IMHO.
FWIW my line up, based on just this Rhodes, would be nylon string guitar, upright bass, a flute and vocals (yours of course).
This has the makings of a very pretty song. Good luck with it. 

Thankyou for the recommendations, Mario! Those instruments are right on for the tone I had in mind...

[kara]

I normally don't download music when I'm away with the camper, principal reason is that I pay per downloaded Kb and not on the connection time... but I had to listen to this one 
Also on an average throughput of 20 Kb/sec with my GPRS key it takes some time to get it 

But it was worth the wait, the idea of the song is very interesting and it has a sweet chord progression, ideal for a ballad. I wonder how it will sound when retuned 

But, I wonder why you choosed a rhodes ? Since it is an electric instrument... if you want to stay in the 'spirit' of old ballads perhaps you could try a clavinet or a clavecimbel or another old type of keyboard ? Just an idea....
A flute would certainly be a good idea to add, ask James, those whistles exist since the beginning of music
 

Looking forward where this will take you

k - having a great time in holiday

[Oren]

But, I wonder why you choosed a rhodes ? Since it is an electric instrument... if you want to stay in the 'spirit' of old ballads perhaps you could try a clavinet or a clavecimbel or another old type of keyboard ? Just an idea....
A flute would certainly be a good idea to add, ask James, those whistles exist since the beginning of music

Kara,

When I use a synthetic soundsource for one of my own songs, I prefer to employ a decidedly "synthetic" sound rather than try to emulate a natural instrument. This song is one that will go all the way to final production (rather than an exercise or experiment), and I want the instruments that are sequenced to be clearly identifiable as a digital construct. The "Rhodes" will get an added phase effect, just so no-one will think it's actually a piano player sitting at a real instrument.
Likewise, because Hydrogen sounds so much like a real drummer, I'm working with a program called "Hammerhead" to produce synthetic percussion tracks, instead. The idea is to create sequenced tracks that support the composition, without trying to "replace" an actual instrumentalist.

So yes, if I want a flute or whistle in the song, James is the man. Or you, if I want real piano. But for my taste, synthetic tracks should sound synthetic, not an approximation of something an accomplished player could perform with so much more feeling.

Am I making any sense...?

[kara]

Am I making any sense...?

Yep, makes sense to me 

k

[Oren]

Here is the Rhodes piano track EQed to emphasize the percussive qualities and bass notes. Then, a soft synth "pad" was added to smooth out the rough edges. The whole track has been re-tuned so that A = 444.09 Hz.
As it stands, the Rhodes track will serve as bass, percussion, and chord accompaniment. Vocals and melody guitar will finish it

....................I hope.....................

[Wyatt]

Here is the Rhodes piano track EQed to emphasize the percussive qualities and bass notes. Then, a soft synth "pad" was added to smooth out the rough edges. The whole track has been re-tuned so that A = 444.09 Hz.
As it stands, the Rhodes track will serve as bass, percussion, and chord accompaniment. Vocals and melody guitar will finish it

....................I hope.....................

Oh, that's simply gorgeous!

I love the tonal quality you have given this..

..absolutely first class, Oren; go for it!



Wyatt

[Oren]

...Oh, that's simply gorgeous!
I love the tonal quality you have given this...

Thanks Wyatt. After hearing some of the work you have done lately, venturing into this area seems a little less daunting 

(I gotta tell you that working with sequencers and synthetic sound sources makes me nervous as hell... There is this nagging feeling that one day I may wake up and realize my all songs sound like karaoke. Just friggin' shoot me... )

[kuguar]

Ancestry  and AncestryKey are two absolutely huge differences (like saying in Odessa).Anyway it's something enigmate , sounds like musicbox. Beautifully, Oren!

[Oren]

Ancestry  and AncestryKey are two absolutely huge differences (like saying in Odessa).Anyway it's something enigmate , sounds like musicbox. Beautifully, Oren!

Thankyou, Oleg!

We will see if you think so once I start singing....