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Title: Guitars n Strings Post by: MarioD on September 11, 2009, 10:53:42 PM I am so far out of my comfort zone on this one it’s like I’m on another planet!
Anyway I took some of the suggestions made in my ‘I need some new ears on this one” message and came up with this. Hopefully it’s new AND improved. Constructive criticism is always welcomed. Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: elwoodblues1969 on September 12, 2009, 12:57:35 AM Mario,
The clarity & spaciousness of this piece-sonically is broad & rings out with authority...you did a great job with the effects. 8) Composition-wise,the shining moments of this song,are the first 9 seconds of this song,the area between 2:07 through 2:26 in reference to the drums,bass & guitar(the entire e.guitar track is great),but the rest of the song I would suggest you scrap & start over,because there's too many problems with the lack of harmony amongst the string tracks and the bass line in the area of 2:26 through 2:55 is pretty incoherent. The guitar in the latter part of the song doesn't fit,as there's nothing to really support it. I'm sorry for being so brutal,but these are my honest observations and opinions,which are always meant to be constructive. I don't know exactly how you feel about this version personally,but if you're still unhappy with it,I would love to do a collaboration with you on this,as I would really enjoy building upon the areas of this song that I think are strong,& have potential. If you're interested in doing a collab with me on this one,I would like to emulate your orchestral compositions using my orchestral sound sets,but re-work the harmonies,without changing your string work too much. That being said,if you could leave out the strings and the guitar at the end of the song,and just send me the drums & electric guitar tracks-that would be great(if that's alright with you). I think this would be a fun project to tinker around with and if nothing else,perhaps my ideas might generate some ideas within you,so that you can take your song in the direction that you will be most pleased with. :-\ :) -Thom Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: Oren on September 12, 2009, 02:40:10 AM ...Hopefully it’s new AND improved...Constructive criticism is always welcomed... Yup! It has more life and a distinct Mario signature. This is good. Now, let Thom run with it, and he'll take you all the way downtown... :; Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: kara on September 12, 2009, 10:02:00 AM Jeez what a song ! That IS some guitar playing.
I don't fully agree with Thom, but that's a matter of taste I guess... What I heard - A great intro, perhaps a tad to long, I was realy waiting to hear what woud happen, but a great sound. - 2:07, YEAH here we go, that is some playing :; - 3:25 here it goes wrong me thinks :'( It doesn't realy fit the song to my feeling. And my internal clock gives me the impression that in some spots you are slightly behind the beat ? - 4:50 Ecxelent again ! With some rework this could become one of the best prog-rock songs I've heard in the last years ! So, whatever you do, don't ditch it !!! k Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: folderol on September 13, 2009, 12:42:39 PM I very much like the way this is going. On the downside I still think the violins sound weak, but everything else seems fine to me from a technical viewpoint.
The second guitar section Rony refers to does fit in my opinion but not in the way you lead up to it. I think there needs to be a longer and greater 'climb down' before it starts, then I think it will work. So, not gold star yet, but definitely on the way :D Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: MarioD on September 13, 2009, 01:35:47 PM Thanx all for listening and the suggestions. I am reworking this one as we speak.
Thom I will send you my tracks as soon as I finish up a couple of projects I’m working on. Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: elwoodblues1969 on September 14, 2009, 04:07:10 AM Ok Mario-this is good,because I'm neck deep in my work with other stuff as well,so I'll need a couple of days to complete my list on my end. :o 8)
-Thom Title: Re: Guitars n Strings - version 2 Post by: MarioD on September 17, 2009, 12:09:38 AM OK I’ve reworked this one.
Thom, as you correctly pointed out there were some clunker notes in there, great ears. Sometimes I just can’t hear what I really should hear, if you know what I mean. I added a slight touch of synth at the beginning and I eliminated the acoustic guitar part. I just couldn’t get it to fit. What do you guys think? Title: Re: Guitars n Strings - version 2 Post by: Oren on September 17, 2009, 01:36:54 AM OK I’ve reworked this one. More excellent improvements! To my ears, you're taking this towards a "synth-strings" production, and I really like it. I've always wondered at the inclination to try to emulate an orchestra, when a synthetic ensemble can sound so much more original and interesting... Sweet bit of work, Longhair.... :; Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: MarioD on September 25, 2009, 01:50:12 PM Thanx Oren for the kind words,
Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: kara on October 03, 2009, 08:47:23 AM Certainly an improvement 8) I really like this one, it sounds like very prog rock which I love.
k Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: MarioD on October 03, 2009, 01:33:35 PM Thanx Kara.
Title: Re: Guitars n Strings Post by: Wyatt on October 03, 2009, 03:16:12 PM Holy Mackerel Mario!!
I can't belive I missed this. :( This is fantastic..I love it!! |