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« on: January 10, 2008, 12:08:26 PM »

Does anyone have an idea what this problem might be?

After a new video card and a new power supply, things were looking up..then I tried to play a tutorial DVD and get an error message every time that says MacroMedia Projector needs to close. the problem is in quicktime.qts.

So I uninstalled/reinstalled Quicktime..tested the installation on their website..tested the installation for MacroMedia on their website too, and everything checks out.

Still this DVD won't play..and it played before the new vid card..and it still plays on other machines..and all my other DVDs still play on this machine..(they use WMP).

I checked the bios to make sure the onboard video was disabled, and could not find any listing for it at all. I checked hidden files and could not find any drivers for the old video either. I up dated the drivers for this video card as well.

If anybody can help me to understand this, I would appreciate it..thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 01:24:46 PM »

Why is this DVD using a different player than your other DVD's on the same computer?  If it's a player that loads from the DVD itself, it may be a simple case of it clashing with something in your system, like the new videocard drivers...maybe they share a filename or something similar.
 You know what macromedia is, right?
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 01:56:26 PM »

Have you tried....insert the DVD holding down 'shift' to disable autostart, select the drive and right click, then select 'open with' and navigate to WMP.
Just a long shot!
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 02:23:19 PM »

Why is this DVD using a different player than your other DVD's on the same computer? .....
 You know what macromedia is, right?

 "MacroMedia"....SoftUnion - Russia. And  "Quicktime" is an Apple/MacIntosh thing.

What would be the point of running this software with a Microsoft O/S? You're already paying for the Microsoft tools that integrate with your O/S - using them would likely lead to the most successful/predictable outcome.

As I work toward becoming conversant in the Linux tools, I am beginning to understand  why rharv tends to use the Microsoft tools where ever feasible - they integrate. PowerTracks Pro and Band-in-a-Box (boom chicka boom! Cheesy)from PG Music are two very good reasons why I'm considering keeping a Microsoft XP Pro equipped computer in service, and I will use the Microsoft tools that go with this O/S (thankyou once again, Bob Wink).

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 03:03:24 PM »

Why is this DVD using a different player than your other DVD's on the same computer?

The program on the DVD is an executable, and apparently it wants to use QT instead of WMP. I have no idea why. There is an install pgm on the DVD for QT, in case someone doesn't already have it.

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If it's a player that loads from the DVD itself, it may be a simple case of it clashing with something in your system, like the new videocard drivers...maybe they share a filename or something similar.

I am reduced to that assumption, because the order of events suggests that clearly. I just don't know enough to do anything productive with the info. I have also been in touch with tech support for the card, for the DVD, and my IT guys..next test might need to be to try a different vid card.


 
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You know what macromedia is, right?

I don't know enough about Macromedia to understand what you mean by that question!  Smiley

I tested it on Adobes website though, and it was playing just fine..right after testing QT player on Apple's.

Thanks for your reply,

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 03:07:38 PM »

Have you tried....insert the DVD holding down 'shift' to disable autostart, select the drive and right click, then select 'open with' and navigate to WMP.
Just a long shot!
 Huh
James

That is a good idea James, and yes I did explore that and similar work-arounds for quite a while. Windows is not letting me assign a program to open an .exe file..

..there is a video folder full of .mov files though, and I would have thought that I might have been able to open them with one of my other players, but all I got when I did that was 6-9 seconds of black screen..and I had watched these segments before and they are 5-10 minutes long.

Thanks for your reply,

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 03:16:12 PM »

Why is this DVD using a different player than your other DVD's on the same computer? .....
 You know what macromedia is, right?

 "MacroMedia"....SoftUnion - Russia. And  "Quicktime" is an Apple/MacIntosh thing.


Macromedia=Adobe

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What would be the point of running this software with a Microsoft O/S? You're already paying for the Microsoft tools that integrate with your O/S - using them would likely lead to the most successful/predictable outcome.

That makes sense to me, but so far at least, I don't have the option of choosing what it will run with. There are different formats for video, just the way there are for audio. The folks who make the DVD have already decided how they want it to run.

I haven't have any de-compilers since the '90s, but I am tempted to surgerize it..but since this all worked before the new vid card, I will stick it out until I can get the compatibility straightened out.

Thanks for your reply,

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 04:27:29 PM »

I haven't had to do this for many years, but I copied everything off the DVD into a file on my hd..I have had that work before..but it didn't work this time.

So it is looking like a different video card is in order.

Can anyone recommend a good video card for a DAW?

I'm not a gamer, and I don't need hdtv. 

Thanks,

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »

hm, I'm far from a hardware specialist but i don't see the logic in needing a new video card here Huh

If all other applications work well with your video card then there is nothing wrong  with it, i would say
In that case the problem has to be something else

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »

hm, I'm far from a hardware specialist but i don't see the logic in needing a new video card here Huh

If all other applications work well with your video card then there is nothing wrong  with it, i would say
In that case the problem has to be something else

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I see what you are saying..my logic is only that this was working just fine until the new video card was installed..there is some incompatibility here that is probably not hardware, but I have not been able to fix it for two weeks..my techs are also out of gas on it..and so is tech support for the video card.

So really it is just an act of desperation.  Grin

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 05:13:32 PM »

If it was me, and I really needed this to work I would try uninstalling QT, reboot, install QT from the DVD, see if it works,  then if it does work, try updating the QT to the current version again and then see if it still works..
my hunch is there is a QT system file involved. 
Note that removing QT can be a hassle.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 06:26:43 PM »

Wyatt,

This is what you should do:
- Restore your system to the day before you installed quicktime (Programs==>Accessoires==>System Tools==>System Restore)
This will make your system clean again, getting the junk of quicktime away
- Search another DVD player, don't use quicktime, but a freeware e.g. http://www.tucows.com/preview/427178

P.S.: I don't like quicktime eather because of compatibility problems with videocards... hmmmm.... sounds familiar....

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 07:28:39 PM »

Another free one is http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
which I use without any problems

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 07:43:06 PM »

Moon & Kara- I think the problem is that the DVD loads as an executable file that launches Quicktime.

I'm glad to hear that Moon agrees with my first instinct which was to suspect something in QT as the culprit.


Macromedia is a protection scheme, Wyatt.  One of the most used DVD copy-protection devices used. It was actually built into every VHS player here in the states years ago...now on DVD. Seems silly that a program meant to protect the product is what's getting reported as the error, eh?
 I hate DRM....and those companies that force it onto us.
I found it funny that those cheap Apex brand DVD players that were out a couple years ago sold like hotcakes once someone realized they could turn off the macromedia protection with a switch inside the unit!  They were immediately out of production, of course.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 09:31:10 PM »

Wyatt,

This is what you should do:
- Restore your system to the day before you installed quicktime (Programs==>Accessoires==>System Tools==>System Restore)
This will make your system clean again, getting the junk of quicktime away
- Search another DVD player, don't use quicktime, but a freeware e.g. http://www.tucows.com/preview/427178

P.S.: I don't like quicktime eather because of compatibility problems with videocards... hmmmm.... sounds familiar....

Moon

Thanks Moon..I will try that..a couple years ago I had probs with QT when I put in my EMU 1212M sound card.

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