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Title: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 12, 2008, 05:13:43 PM
I've started working on a new track. At first, the title was going to be something else but after a while the track veered so strongly in the Jarre direction, especially the Oxygene direction, that I decided on the new title.

It's still early and there's a lot of balancing levels still to be done - not to speak of the other half of the track! :) Still, hope you all enjoy this. I will be working on new versions as time progresses but right now I have to stop for a minute and let the track breathe. This was made in three hours straight.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Laguna Rising on April 12, 2008, 06:05:20 PM

the track veered so strongly in the Jarre direction, especially the Oxygene direction, that I decided on the new title.

 ;D We know you like that sound and music, and it could seems a kind of emulation, but I prefer to see it as a choice of sounds and instruments. Although there's nothing wrong in emulating great artists, but after all this is your own music and I think we like it

This was made in three hours straight.

 :o
 it already has a ton of character
everything's well defined
Well done !  8)

Cheers


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Moon on April 12, 2008, 06:11:25 PM
Marc,

This is very promissing. I don't mind at all that it sounds like like JMJ, on the contrary; finaly someone who can match this level and style of music. So, keep working on this track and don't change that style !

Some thoughts: this can become a long song, I hope to hear a long intro which gradually builds the song up. The sounds are more than ok, except for the sounds at 1:40 and again at 1:57 (but that's my taste). Again, I think this song has mush potential, but be sure to give it enough room and don't try to squeez to much in a limited time, make room, even if at the end this song becomes 5 or 6 minutes long (or even more...)  ;)

I'm allready waiting for the next version !

Moon


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: kara on April 12, 2008, 06:37:16 PM
It's incredible that you made this in 3 hours  :;
I don't know how you do that, it would take me at least 3 weeks.

Realy looking forward to the final version here  :-

k


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 12, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
Thanks! I'm quite enthusiastic about it so I'm glad you all liked it too. It'll be a lot longer in the final version, so don't worry Moon! :)

Considering the Jarre link, I'm definetely not actively trying to avoid that. When a track goes in that direction, I let it. In this case I actually was so happy about some of the sounds and patterns that I decided to let the name reflect the Jarre link.

I mentioned the time not to brag about it - it's more that sometimes I get into a very focussed mood when doing music and when that happens I get a lot done. On the other hand, in such a case after a few hours I'm totally knackered and I have to force myself to stop. Making music is never really relaxing for me. ;)


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: folderol on April 12, 2008, 08:09:15 PM
I like this a lot. I'll have to keep an ear cocked for part 2 :)

I also quite agree with you about letting the music go where it wants to. I've had some pleasant surprises myself that way.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on April 13, 2008, 12:51:17 AM
Marc,

Would love to have a listen to your new piece,but when I run into a situation where I have to try to run a new software program to read foreign audio formats-this is where I run into a brick wall. :-\

If it's not too much of a hassle for you,I would appreciate it if you could post mp3 files alongside your ogg files,so that everyone here can enjoy your work.

Thanks,

Thom


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 13, 2008, 12:29:19 PM
Hi Thom,

I normally would do that - certainly for final versions. However, my sequencer doesn't export mp3 directly and I was too tired to convert this one.

However, I had the same problems as you in the past with ogg tracks. But then I installed the illiminable codecs (http://illiminable.com/ogg/ (http://illiminable.com/ogg/)) and these allow the normal windows media player to play back oggs so it isn't a hassle anymore. I've had these working on my xp and vista machines.

That said, I'll get an mp3 up, certainly for the next version.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Laguna Rising on April 13, 2008, 01:48:55 PM
I installed the illiminable codecs (http://illiminable.com/ogg/ (http://illiminable.com/ogg/))

Yeah ! I use them too. it's a very light install and listening to OGG become transparent as mp3 and wma  8)
I suggest to use them

Cheers


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: offthewall on April 13, 2008, 10:11:29 PM
I must be the only one on this forum who is not a JMJ fan. Of course you all know that I'm a 'real' instrument lover who doesn't deal much with synths......but this is great stuff from you, Marc.
You sure have a dynamic way of working. You pull such intricacies from those electronic boxes with a superb sense of rhythm and timing.
Great stuff, as usual.  ;D

@thom.  I have WinMediaPlayer set to stream MP3 and WinAmp set to stream ogg. Easy!
 ;)
James


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 16, 2008, 03:43:38 PM
Thanks James! Cool to hear that you like it even though you're not a Jarre fan.

Still, give us here some time and we'll get you to like Jarre! ;)


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 18, 2008, 01:00:06 PM
New version of Oxydization is up! Additional work time: 1 hour. Changes: new intro, new variation on what used to be the last bit with a nice solo over it, new ending bit (which will not be the ending bit in the final version...). Lots of details: eq. panning, levels...

Hope you all like it, it's still not a final version but I'm getting ever more excited abou this one! :-


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Oren on April 18, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
Is this a departure from your usual styles, Marc? There is an edge I've not noticed before....distorted, aggressive, but with a carefully orchestrated balance.

Lovely  :)


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 18, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
Is this a departure from your usual styles, Marc? There is an edge I've not noticed before....distorted, aggressive, but with a carefully orchestrated balance.

Lovely  :)

Well, to be honest I don't have much control of where a track goes when I work on it... ;) I normally tend to like pads and 'airy' sounds which I suppose tend to create a more smooth sound image. In this case since I felt it going towards Oxygene territory and I wanted to explore that, I kind of did try not to use my normal set of sounds but instead used lots of classic synth sounds. There's lots of GMedia ImpOSCar in there and the lead sound you hear all over the track is their MiniMonsta synth which I really, really love. I also tried something different with the delays so I guess the sum of these small decisions is what gives the track a different sound. It's cool though as it is a kind of sound that I always found hard to achieve and I now have a much clearer idea of how to do that! ;D


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: folderol on April 18, 2008, 07:02:30 PM
I really like the way this is developing. :;


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on April 20, 2008, 12:18:15 AM
I really like the way this is developing. :;

Me too... ;D I think there'll be some more versions before this one feels done. That bit at the end is really inspiring, I think I'll do more with that.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on May 08, 2008, 10:18:57 PM
Yes! I finally got around to doing a new version. Still not what I consider final, but the arrangement and length are pretty much fixed as far as I am concerned. Still some detailing and integrating of parts to perform, but I'm happy the way it turned out.

Oh yes - now it's in mp3! :)


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: MarioD on May 08, 2008, 11:31:49 PM
Marc JX8P – you should be happy the way this turned out.  It is excellent. 

I really liked the transitions, very nice.

With your permission I’d like to add some guitar to this.  If ok I’d send you the parts first so you could cut and paste, as you like, prior to posting.  If not NO problem.

Super job!


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: elwoodblues1969 on May 09, 2008, 01:01:01 AM
Marc,

Unmistakeably retro-which is a very good thing and the arranging & choice of sounds are top notch! O0

It's cool to finally be able to hear this tune...wonderful job! :-

Synths are so frichen cool..I just can't get enough of them and to hear you utilize them is a beautiful thing.

Cheers,

Thom


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on May 09, 2008, 01:54:51 AM
Thanks guys, really appreciate the feedback! It confirms what I feel about the track and that - with some last detailing and such - I should consider it finished.

That said, I'd love to hear what you want to add to this, Mario! Feel free to record over it and send me what you've done. I always like to hear a guitar players take on a piece of music.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: folderol on May 09, 2008, 07:07:42 PM
Once again, I am very impressed with what you have done with this, both musically and technically. There's a great deal of work gone into it, but it hasn't become bogged down or over-filled.


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: kara on May 12, 2008, 09:53:27 AM
The master at work  :-
Very good layering of sounds, it's incredible how much you can cram in a song without overloading it.

So, when is your first concert, reserve me some tickets  :;

k


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Moon on May 31, 2008, 08:18:04 AM
I've crossed this entry on Youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V66pMP4nz4&feature=related

Great performance! The Nord G2 is the center piece in this performance. Kara, you must have fun with your G2X. I must get one myself one of these days...

Moon


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: kara on May 31, 2008, 10:13:23 AM
Moon, indeed a great performance.

k


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: SoundKlops on June 01, 2008, 08:43:22 AM
The master at work  :-
Very good layering of sounds, it's incredible how much you can cram in a song without overloading it.

So, when is your first concert, reserve me some tickets  :;

k


I can only agree.  8) 8)

Andreas


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Moon on June 01, 2008, 09:38:57 AM

Oh yes - now it's in mp3! :)


Marc, I do regret that it's in mp3 format... it's should be in mpeg.  ;D
OK, let's start working on a video clip and put this one on youtube so we help Marc selling tickets for his first concert ! Is the date allready fixed ?

O yes, I really like the song.

Moon


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on June 03, 2008, 09:03:05 PM
LOL - well, a small concert for the launch of the first cd of 87PM (which is Percy TKNX and me) is scheduled for the start of july... We'll certainly be making recordings, and we'll try to film it too. A short while after this the cd in question will be available for purchase as cd or download... We'll keep you all posted!

Iny case - if there's something I still want to make a clip for then it's the Rendez Vous acapella version I did... :D


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Laguna Rising on June 04, 2008, 06:44:30 PM
Yes! I finally got around to doing a new version.

Very nice Marc !  8)
I enjoyed it

Cheers


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Oren on June 05, 2008, 04:12:38 AM
Epic. :;


Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Percy TKNX on June 06, 2008, 08:47:45 AM
Surprise, didn't know this one and I didn't know you played that well?  ;)

Maybe you can play this as encore song at our concert 5th of june, what do you think?   :D

Go Marc Go  :-





Title: Re: Oxydization - a work in progress
Post by: Marc JX8P on June 06, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
Thanks again for the positive feedback, guys! Sorry, Percy - I guess I should admit now that after the first cd I plan to split from 87pm and start my succesful solo carreer with this track! ;)

Considering playing it: I'll have my hands full with the six tracks from Ocean Coast I need to learn and program. Maybe on a next concert though - but only if we also play Airtrip and Jax!