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Title: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: neclepsio on September 21, 2014, 12:39:48 PM
Hello everyone,

I'm moving my first steps in MMA and find it great.
I cannot solve a problem that I have in multiple songs.

For example:

Tempo 97
Groove Ballad
1 F / C
2 Dm
3 C
4 C7   

On bar 3, there is a moment of silence on first beat. I think it's related to Ballad groove. How can I avoid it, other than by changing groove?

Thank you,
Ignazio


Title: Re: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: bvdp on September 21, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
First ... welcome to the wonderful world of MMA :)

The "Silence" on the 3rd bar is just how the groove was designed. There is a nice bass note there. But, if it bothers you there are several simple solutions:

1. Use a different groove,

2. Enjoy the silence. Frankly I think it sounds just fine (but I wrote it),

3. Use a riff modification for that bar:

Groove Ballad
1 F / C
2 Dm
Chord Riff C1234
3 C
4 C7   

Riff is something to apply to a SINGLE bar

4. Modify the groove itself. That, too, is easy:

Groove Ballad  // load the groove to change
Chord Sequence C1234 C13 C1 C13 /// just an example, probably sounds awful
DefGroove Ballad  /// now we have a new ballad groove in memory

Let us know what works.


Title: Re: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: neclepsio on September 21, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
This is a wonderful world indeed!
Since I play bass guitar, bass track is disabled in my song! That's why I've this problem.

Thank you for the solutions you gave me.
I think I will "fork" ballad.

Thank you
Ignazio

 


Title: Re: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: bvdp on September 21, 2014, 06:50:06 PM

Yes, the missing bass will make it sound very odd indeed ... that's why I aways want a bass player in my group :)

Should be easy to have a new ballad groove. See the manual discussion about having your own library which can override the default stdlib.


Title: Re: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: neclepsio on December 29, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
I don't know, I think a "Beat=..." followed by "Auto" could be enough. At least, in my experience. But I used this solution so rarely... Maybe for other songs it's different.


Title: Re: [NEWBIE] Help with "holes" in song
Post by: bvdp on December 29, 2014, 10:41:06 PM
I don't know, I think a "Beat=..." followed by "Auto" could be enough. At least, in my experience. But I used this solution so rarely... Maybe for other songs it's different.


Sorry, but I have no idea what you mean. Perhaps a few lines of actual MMA code might help me :)

Best,