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Ever since James and I Collaborated to produce this song, I've been trying to sing it myself. Now that's about 2 years of trying I think :(

I guess I've now reached the point where it really won't get any better. My voice seems to steadfastly refuse to improve no matter how much I try to practice (indeed I'm not at all sure it isn't getting worse).

Anyway here is my best effort.

 :-...Yes!

Although the song - and performance - stand on their own, a thorough processing of the vocal would be an worthwhile exercise.

Any chance of posting the naked vocal as a high resolution Ogg Vorbis file, Will?
 I'd like to have a go at it, and there are several folks hereabouts who do wonders with plug-in effects. We could compare recipes... 8)

+1 

I wouldn't mind having a go at it myself.

Will,

I'm very pleased to hear you finally sing in this tune and your voice is very befitting to your song-bravo Sir!
All you need now is to raise the volume a bit and a dash of reverb and this will be a 5 star production. 8)
Now I'm just waiting for Oren to do his thing......

-Thom

Thanks enormously everyone for your encouragement.

I would be very interested to hear what magic Oren can apply, so what I have done is to put a zipped copy of the audacity project on my website. This has all the parts separated out, and the vocal clean with only noise cancellation having been applied.

It is at:
http://www.musically.me.uk/Sunrises.zip
and is about 150MB. I will not be able to leave it there for too long though!

Will,
You've made a super job of this ..... at last  ::)

I don't know what sort of plug-ins you can use with your rig, but you could take a look at this one :
http://www.terrywest.110mb.com/voceqpro.html

It is great at bringing out the best parts of vocals.

 ;)
James

Thanks very much James. I'm especially appreciative of your aproval on this one :-

I had a look at that plug-in link, but it's probably doubtful I'd be able to use it. I know VSTs can often be piped through Wine, but it's a lot of work, and many don't work proplery (or at all).

The website was incredibly slow, so I'll have another look later to see if i can get any hints.

Got it Will! Thanks.

I was hoping other members would pick it up and give the vocal a go also...

I had wanted to, but the download was too hefty.   :(

Attached is Will's un-effected vocal encoded as Ogg Vorbis level 6, which results in a file size of just over 3 megabytes. :-

(Ogg Vorbis level 6 results in a file that is, for the majority of experienced listeners, indistinguishable from the original wave file.)

Many thanks!   :;

I just had a listen to this vocal track and to be honnest I wouldn't have a clue how to make it better...

k

Gsnap helped bring some of the off-key notes back in tune, our LADSPA 10 band equalizer shaved off excess bass frequencies and brought up some sparkle around 3500Hz, the LADSPA "versatile plate reverb" gave spatial definition, and the LADSPA "fast look-ahead limiter" leveled out Will's performance.

Also attached is a version without the reverb, in case Will wants to add his own to suit the rest of his production.

Wow! I leave the forum for one day and it gets hectic!

@Wyatt
Sorry about the file size. I thought I was being helpful - get into a lot of trouble for that  ::)

@Kara
I'm not sure if that's good or bad... I'll take it as good ;)

@Oren
That was dashed fast work sir! I'll transfer these across to the DAW and see how they sound. If I use Audacity's mute, I'll be able to do A - B - err C comparisons ;D

I downloaded the file you posted just before rushing off on a rather stressful trip today..just got back, so I haven't had a chance to do anything with this.  :(

Thanks for explaining how you worked this..very informative and thought provoking.

Very nice job you did on it, too!!


Actually Will, I think having the entire mix available was a rather important idea..as I was driving today, it occurred to me that it would have been so much better to have the mix to 'fit' the vocal into.

My internet service has been having a really slow week, which made matters worse..in the future I will dedicate another machine to the task..I have an extra one around here somewhere, that isn't being used.

I guess I am a day late and a dollar short on this project, but I am glad you are in such good hands.

All's well that ends well,


8)

Wyatt

It certainly was ment as good  ;D
Now listening to what Oren did, it seems you can allways make it better  ;)

k

Some mighty fine refinements Oren-you the man!(http://www.thescubasite.com/smile/cool/cool0020.gif) (http://www.thescubasite.com/Scuba-Diving-in-South-Africa/scuba-diving-in-sodwana-bay)

Just one of de men, mi amigo... ;)
I was hoping to hear your upgrade on this vocal production...?... O0

Right-Ho here we go again.

That's a great bit of work you've done Oren. The first thing I noticed was much greater clarity.

I've used the version without reverb, as I've tried to use a more subtle reverb with a bigger 'room size' but lower level (using Gverb).
The other thing I've done is make a very small pitch adjustment to the most severe 'wobble' that was still there.

I'm much more comfortable with the overall result now, so thanks a bunch Oren 8)

As usual, comments welcome.

Will,
I'm glad you applied your own reverb to suit - nice job!
The challenge with processing your vocal was to enhance it while maintaining its disarming qualities.
Although a bit more pitch correction on the last verse/chorus may have been in order, I think we've done quite well. :-

Thanks again Oren. Unless someone comes up with new ideas I think we can regard that as the finished article :)
That last verse is a killer - remind me to never, ever, attempt a key change like that again :o

Great song, great soundscape, great lyrics and a very good voice.  What’s not to like about this one?

This one is done.

Thanks a lot Mario. Much appreciated.