Infinite flight - first attempt at rearranging this track

[Frederik]

After your remarks on the first vocal version I decided to redo this piece; I rebuild it round the vocals. There's a little less electronica, more bass, other drums, an extra pad, etc...

Just let me now if I'm getting somewhere with this new arrangement  (otherwise I'll drop it, plenty other things to develop)!

frederik

[elwoodblues1969]

Fred,

Interesting composition & atmosphere,but with a couple of pronounced problems...the bass drum is a little over done & sounds distorted and the high hat(s) could be toned down a bit and perhaps the reverb could be reduced on the drum track as well.
There are some very infectious synth melodies in this,but it's drowned out by the over-implentmentation of the effects.
Overall as is,it sounds like a live production that was done in a gymnasium,which makes the music a bit incoherant.
It seems to me that you've saturated the entire production with reverb,so I think that if you back off on the effects a bit on the instrument tracks,clean up the drum track for a tighter sound and decrease the vocal level just slightly-I believe you'll articulate the theme of this song well,without losing the atmosphere of it.

Just offering some of my thoughts on this,so I'll leave the expert advice to mix master Oren...the main man,the zen master,the demi god of the studio world.

Some very nice ideas at play here..looking forward to hearing the tweaked version.

Cheers,

Thom

[kara]

Interesting song, with an improved production it could become a good song 
I agree with the remarks of Thom which nailed it pretty good.

k

[Frederik]

thanks for the replies and suggestions.

I've already posted a quick fix version in the original post at the top. As said there a more fundamental reworking at least will have to wait till the weekend.

Got something else for you to listen to in the meantime, I'll upload it in a couple of minutes.

frederik

[folderol]

Good overall and some really excellent parts, but also (especially near the start) some of the vocal sounds a bit confused.
 A trick that may be worth trying for the chorus (How I miss her, How I miss her, etc) is to double track and stagger the repeats. This gives you more breathing space and it doesn't sound like you are in a rush:

How I miss her {silence} How I miss her {silence}
 {silence}  How I miss her {silence} How I miss her

[Frederik]

Thanks for the replie, Folderol!

Now that is a good trick for the chorus
I'm already doubletracking (with a bit panning) in this song (between verse and chorus), so the split of the chorus would be easy to do.

BTW: I think I'm gonna try to rebuild this arrangement from say scratch, to try and build a more cohesive piece/production.
Whenever this leads to some result, I'll post it here.

frederik

[offthewall]

Just got round to listening to this one. I missed the original but the updated version is pretty sound. It's a good song, overall, but things do feel a tad 'overcrowded'. I think you are right to go for a rebuild on this piece. It will be worth it!
 
James

[Frederik]

The first attempt at re-arranging can be found in the original topic at the top 

frederik

[Laguna Rising]

Ok I think I'm listening to the last attempt and although I'm not using my usual speakers but listening on headphones I think everything seems to be in its place.
Then I leave to the others the role of commenting on the production.
I congratulate once again for this song which is certainly above average for its catchy melodies and vocal lines

Cheers

[Oren]

No further improvements necessary.

Reminds me of productions from "The Fifth Dimension" and "The Mommas and the Poppas" (this is good  )

[Frederik]

Thanks guys!

Glad to hear my rearrangement job did the trick 

frederik

[MarioD]

No further improvements necessary.

Reminds me of productions from "The Fifth Dimension" and "The Mommas and the Poppas" (this is good  )

+1

Great production and outstanding vocals!