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« on: November 16, 2009, 07:55:14 PM »

There is a very interesting discussion on linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org about the feasibility of an open-source soundcard, communicating over ethernet.

This all started from someone complaining about the difficulty of getting decent drivers for either firewire or USB-2 cards and grew from there.

The major advantage of going over ethernet is that there is no hardware needed at the computer end. You would have great difficulty these days finding a computer that didn't have at least 10/100base-T and early 'sweet-paper' calculations suggest this would be enough for 20 independent audio channels. Yes I did say 20 Smiley

Something else very attractive is that a half-decent ethernet adaptor is connected via high frequency transformers, giving total isolation both for safety and eliminating ground loops.

As ethernet is a unversal standard, drivers for the proposed soundcard could easily be written for any current platform, and for any immediately forseeable one.

Currently I think we are on the verge of a couple of guys with connection to small hardware companies developing test rigs with off-the-shelf modules. This move is to find out the practial limits of the idea, and likely problems/constraints.

If the pilot looks good, then the next stage would be to have multiple cards on the network all synced to one master - whichever can produce the most stable timecode. This would almost certainly not be the computer. Apart from anything else, in this scenario the computer doesn't need to have a soundcard at all.

The last idea, casually mooted would be a small single channel add-on module able to pick up radio mics (although there may be patent restrictions preventing that).

The whole development, hardware and software, is intended to be entirely open-source, so no vendor lock-in and no restriction on development and improvement.


This is all very exciting stuff wOO
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 12:50:23 AM »

No on-board hardware, and no soundcard. Open-source development. wOO
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 09:33:52 AM »

This looks certainly very promissing 

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 04:02:19 PM »

Very interesting - ethernet does seem like a logical choice for high speed connectivity with large volumes of data so it's strange that we keep bothering with USB and Firewire. And I'm not even talking about the MUCH larger distances that ethernet can span.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 04:11:29 PM »

And I'm not even talking about the MUCH larger distances that ethernet can span.

Indeed, around 110 meters, without repeaters....

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 06:47:32 PM »

It does sound very interesting, however a lot of systems currently have one ethernet port, so no online action on that system when soundcard is in use (?)

Could always buy an ethernet card I suppose, but that does add a little drain, aspecially if internet and music are on at same time.    Gotta hear those concert videos online!

Aren't there some DAW softwares out there using this principle by letting other machines share the VST load  (like Reaper) or does reaper not use ethernet port for this?  I thought it was network solution, but have not really looked into it.


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Plus they have word clock capability.   No more submixing drums down during live performance recording!
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 08:47:09 PM »

BTW Kara, that appears to be an email link in your original post, at least that is how it functions here...

Any links to something us windows people could see?
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 04:56:25 PM »

Not in my post, folderols post i guess ?

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 06:00:26 PM »

BTW Kara, that appears to be an email link in your original post, at least that is how it functions here...
Any links to something us windows people could see?
Comes up as e-mail on my Linux machine, too. Maybe Will was perspiring (as English gentlemen are purported to do... Wink) at the time, and made a typographical error...?
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 06:40:56 PM »

Appologies gentlemen - and others Smiley

It is in fact a list address which is a sort of e-mail server (for those who've not come across them). Half-way between ordinary e-mail and a newsgroup. Always specialist groups, lightly moderated and usually very low in spam, but occasionally a persistent spammer gets through for a short time Sad

The location for getting archive material, or even subscribing is:

http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 08:09:27 PM »

It is in fact a list address which is a sort of e-mail server (for those who've not come across them). Half-way between ordinary e-mail and a newsgroup. Always specialist groups, lightly moderated and usually very low in spam...
Quite a resource...
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